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and nato allies in support of military operations abroad. here's how they made that case at the hearings today. >> the assertions by spain, italy, that nsa collected ten of million of phone call are completely false. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> so in effect, they're saying that one of the strongest reasons for this anger we've been seeing from europe started with nothing. the misinterpretation, erin, of a single power point slide. >> wow, we shall see. that was the tip of the iceberg. thanks so much to you. >> republican senator rand paul sits on both the foreign relations and homeland security committees. great to have you with us. you heard james clapper's response. are they spying on america? and his answer was categorical, absolutely. if that's true, should america stop spying on its closest allies? >> i guess the real question, who is in char
and nato allies in support of military operations abroad. here's how they made that case at the hearings today. >> the assertions by spain, italy, that nsa collected ten of million of phone call are completely false. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> so in effect, they're saying that one of the...
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and all of its nato partners. the cold data had nothing do with the spanish and french but a collection of call data listen -- listen to it in a number of countries in support of military operations. he said it is completely false. one, this was the msa doing this and, two, it was european citizens, french, and spanish citizens that were being listened to. pretty aggressive knockdown of that story and some of the source of some of the greatest criticism from european side of nsa surveillance. >> jim, part of the white house pushback has been everybody does it. clapper also saying that foreign countries also spy on the u.s. so -- looking at that further, is it possible that the president's blackberry is being read by the germans or the british? >> i asked this of a former official yesterday. i was being -- he said, sure. they probably go after it. i don't know if they would have success. nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's
and all of its nato partners. the cold data had nothing do with the spanish and french but a collection of call data listen -- listen to it in a number of countries in support of military operations. he said it is completely false. one, this was the msa doing this and, two, it was european citizens, french, and spanish citizens that were being listened to. pretty aggressive knockdown of that story and some of the source of some of the greatest criticism from european side of nsa surveillance....
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anytime you guys want you to stop funding nato and protecting your entire continent, you just let us know if you don't like the way things are going in terms of our subsidizing your security. >> you got caught. you can't write these things down. >> that's the crime. all right. thank you. thank you, ross. >> just be careful. i don't know what you -- you know, i read one of your conversations and i'm not sure what you were talking about in this, but it was a little dicey, ross. >>> apple reporting quarterly results better than wall street. but investors initially weren't impressed. brian white is the head of global -- is that it? halloween is right around the corner. >> profits like -- >> could you turn me into a mouse with me just sitting right here right somehow. >> please do. >> not going to do it on set. >> so i just read that last week when apple said it was going to start giving away some software, that that's what changed the growth margin outlook that people initially looked at that looked lower when, in fact, it was better if you include what they said last week. is that what
anytime you guys want you to stop funding nato and protecting your entire continent, you just let us know if you don't like the way things are going in terms of our subsidizing your security. >> you got caught. you can't write these things down. >> that's the crime. all right. thank you. thank you, ross. >> just be careful. i don't know what you -- you know, i read one of your conversations and i'm not sure what you were talking about in this, but it was a little dicey, ross....
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it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> reporter: our european allies still not satisfied with this defense. i met last night with the vice president of the european parliament who said a serious trust deficit remains and that deficit is likely to have consequences, including on a major trade agreement the two sides are discussing right now. kate and chris, you have a german delegation visiting the white house. the issue that seems to spark the most anger for the european side is not just that spying take place but it went right up to the leaders such as angela merkel. that's the issue that sparks the most anger. >> all right, jim, thank you so much. interesting, though. mike rogers always says, that's why the president has to have an encrypted blackberry and cell phone. everyone is trying to spy on president obama as well. >> we don't know how much the politics is masking the practicalities these days. >> good one. >>> another storm, not of the political nature, a real one is brewing a
it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> reporter: our european allies still not satisfied with this defense. i met last night with the vice president of the european parliament who said a serious trust deficit remains and that deficit is likely to have consequences, including on a major trade agreement the two sides are discussing right now. kate and chris, you have a german delegation...